Jan 17, 2014; San Antonio, TX, USA; San Antonio Spurs assistant coach Jim Boylen gives direction to his team during the second half against the Portland Trail Blazers at AT&T Center. The Blazers won 109-100. Mandatory Credit: Soobum Im-USA TODAY Sports

Try Not To Say Stupid Things About Jim Boylen Jazz Fans

So I’m wandering around Twitter today and what do I see tweeted into my timeline

talked w/ a longtime NBA guy that said there is no way you can sell Jim Boylen to the Jazz fanbase. He said they will riot if he’s hired.

That tweet came from the illustrious Jason Shepard who works at KSL.  Now mind you, I have been blocked by Jason Shepard, as have most people who have common sense.  Jason likes to tweet stupid things he makes up and then when people point out he is stupid and made up whatever nonsense he tweeted, he blocks you.  This has all the hallmarks of something Jason Shepard makes up.

  1. Jason has something he wishes were true.
  2. Jason makes up that an expert who won’t be identified agrees with his point of view exactly.
  3. Jason tweets this to make Jason feel like Jason is smart.

Now Jason isn’t the only one guilty of this.  Seems more that a few Jazz fans have been taking this point of view.  This just allows Jason to try to make himself seem extra relevant.

(Of course I’m writing an entire blog post about it so maybe I’m the real idiot here)

However, every single Jazz fan needs to shut up about the, “we’ll riot if Jim Boylen is named head coach nonsense.”

You won’t, an any NBA guy who knows his ass from a hole in the wall knows you won’t.

The Jazz are going to have a very high draft pick this year.  You’re telling the world that you wouldn’t go watch Jabari Parker or Julius Randle play because Jim Boylen is the coach?  If you’re saying that, you’re a liar too, just like Jason Shepard.

If Jim Boylen is hired as head coach of the Jazz, his tenure will come down to one thing, if Dennis Lindsey gets him enough players to win basketball games.  Because even bad coaches in the NBA full of dysfunction, like Mark Jackson at Golden State, win games if they have good players.  Just like Ty Corbin wasn’t winning with the group he had no matter what kind of coach he was.

And if Jim Boylen wins game with the Jazz, you’ll all come out in droves.

None of that mentions that the rest of Shep’s tweets, if you care to read them, want to act like somehow Jim Boylen isn’t deserving of an NBA job.  His NBA resume is pretty impeccable and no less than probably the best coach with the best organization in the league saw fit to make him their top assistant.  On top of that you look at Indiana, who was cruising with Jim Boylen and Roy Hibbard who was an all-star, essentially collapsed when Boylen left.

Any actual NBA person would and does look at this and say, yeah this is a solid hire.

So Jason Shepard stop making shit up.  And Jazz fans, stop pretending like you’ll do anything more than whine on line and maybe boo over this.  Because all that matters is winning.  If that happens, you’ll all suddenly act like you were totally in favor of this.

Tags: Basketball Jim Boylen Pac 12 Utah Utes

  • basecamp26

    Well let’s see Boylen ran the Utah basketball program into the ground. That might be a reason Jazz fans don’t want him. Also I would assume you are blocked if the said twitter person is annoyed with what you might say about/too them through twitter.

  • Bob Bruse

    Boylen did not run the Utah program in to the groud.. Giacoletti did, Boylen was not able to connect with the players and resurrect it.. I do not think the guy is a great college coach by any means, But he always seemed a good guy and If Greg Popavich trust’s him who the hell am i to question that?

  • superdoo

    I’m not a Jazz fan so I couldn’t care less who they hired, but I did spend a lot of time at Boylen’s practices when he was at the U, particularly the year when the wheels came off with the Carlon Brown / Henderson stuff. I know that some might argue that Jimmy’s failure at the U was because he was put in a position and timeline he couldn’t possibly succeed. I look at the state of the Jazz and wonder if he wouldn’t be put in the same thing.

    Jimmy’s system that he tried to set up at the U was actually far better suited for the NBA or a college team already loaded with talent. He had some success early on because he had the talent of Giac’s players, he failed to get the right guys into his system and didn’t get the time to develop the ones he did. I think we all have agreed that he gambled on some guys and lost (both with who he targeted to recruit and also guys he got on the team but didn’t pan out) but didn’t get the time with the guys to correct that situation.

    However I will say going to his practices he seemed at the time to lack the organizational and leadership skills to take players from the HS to D1 level. I spent a lot of time trying to convince myself to not try to pigeonhole Jim into ‘the way Majerus did things’, but the truth is often his practices were a seeming chaotic mess. I often left wondering what the hell had just happened – granted I’m no real expert – but an experience I haven’t had before or since on any level. Granted at the time he had a roster full of guys who weren’t going to listen to him anyway, but still… That will probably make you mad and you’ll accuse me of making things up, but that was just my observation of the practices I was able/allowed to attend.

    But much of that is resolved when you have a roster full of superior athletes who are already very good at their game and the types to be self-motivated. The NBA might need the massaging of egos but not the development of the individual’s game, at least not an the college hand-holding level. That particular coaching skill set isn’t needed at this level (conversely, a guy like Majerus who was a master of this would never succeed at the NBA level because of his demand for control).

    So my conclusion on Boylen is that it is possible he is excellent assistant coach – meaning a supporting role – but may not be HC material on the college level at least when it came to the skills needed to managing and developing non-blue chip college kids into contenders… at least he wasn’t at the time (irrespective of the seeming unfair timelines that he was given by the school and fans). His ‘deficiencies’ at the college level I don’t think necessarily translate at the pro level though and he may do very well as a HC in the NBA. However, I don’t see him as a program rebuilder at least not in an environment like the Jazz where fans are fickle and demands to win are on a very short time line. If I was Jimmy I would pass on the job even if offered.